Another outrageous comment made, July 29, 2010 1:48 AM on
Open Letter from the Grandmother
Anonymous said...
You speak with an obvious, enormous amount of hate. Why? I understand how devastated you must be, if it were my granddaughter I would be saddened beyond words. But God has called you to be like Him, in Christ, there is no room for hate among the brethren. You swear at them, you say "bull, bull, bull" but who is the bull? The one who humbly repents? Or the one who refuses to forgive, and harbors evil contempt and hatred in their heart? We humans are not called to judge each other, you say that "Eddie" is "PURE EVIL", but read your bible, do you think that Jesus would approve of his servant(you) calling a man who He has redeemed and called as His own son "PURE EVIL"? Is it right for us to call a man chosen by God, loved by God, cherished by God "PURE EVIL"? You have called a holy man EVIL, you have taken God's child, and labeled him as EVIL, you have called Christ's holiness, which shines in Eddie, "PURE EVIL". Why, oh why? My heart holds no hate towards you, for Jesus loves you, and how could I hate you, whom Jesus loves? I know that your hurt is to deep for words, but please, do not hate the Rojases, think of it this way Jesus loves them, and how can you hate they that Jesus loves? Patrick has repented, he is forgiven, Jesus has forgiven him. His sins are washed away, he is whiter than snow. Patrick is a new creation in Christ, the old is no more, the Patrick that hurt your child no longer exists. Pray that that Patrick will never return, pray for Patrick to stay pure, and holy. You cry out to the government for Justice, but who is the greatest Judge of all? Jesus is, so stop trying to revenge the Rojas family, God will judge them. Ecc. the last verse " For God will bring every deed into judgement, including every hidden thing". Remember that verse, do not worry, God will bring justice, do not look for it in the government, we all see how often they fail.
May you be strengthened in Christ, for the furthering of his Glorious kingdom. May you understand that God is in control.
Jesus loves you- and them.
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The following is a response from "The Grandmother."
Anonymous,
By anonymously commenting on my post, you show yourself to be a coward.
By your ignorant statements you show yourself to be a fool.
Bully for me!
Judy McBee
PS
You're a nasty hypocrite.The phrase,"Stupid is as stupid does" fits you perfectly in this situation. You anonymously snipe at me with judgmental platitudes and claptrap,while pontificating on the character of first a known pedophile and then a "wanted man." You got the response you earned.
Saturday, July 31, 2010
Friday, July 30, 2010
This is not about forgiveness!
My blog is not about forgiveness. It's not about me or you forgiving Patrick. And I must say, even if God has forgiven Patrick-Patrick is still a threat!
This blog is to educate people in the community of the danger Patrick poses to their children. Patrick isn't going to tell you to keep your children away from him. Jairus isn't going to warn you. Because of individuals who kept secrets and remained silent, the state can't adequately warn the public of the danger Patrick poses. This blog was a way for me to warn the community that Patrick lives in, the churches he will try to attend, and the families he will befriend. If you know who he is,what he is capable of, and you still chose to fellowship with him, well, it won't be on my conscious if Patrick victimizes someone in your family.
This would be a whole different conversation if Patrick would have been forthright and honest about everything. Even then, Patrick would still be a potential danger to other little girls but I wouldn't feel compelled to warn the community. But hiding information and people, lying, going places and being around children(when legally you were not suppose to),contesting a no-contact-order(that the victim wanted to feel safe), suing one of your victims families are all actions that are contrary to the actions of someone who is repentant! Dressing up in a suit and going to church, crying, uttering the words, "forgive me" do not equal repentance!
This blog is to educate people in the community of the danger Patrick poses to their children. Patrick isn't going to tell you to keep your children away from him. Jairus isn't going to warn you. Because of individuals who kept secrets and remained silent, the state can't adequately warn the public of the danger Patrick poses. This blog was a way for me to warn the community that Patrick lives in, the churches he will try to attend, and the families he will befriend. If you know who he is,what he is capable of, and you still chose to fellowship with him, well, it won't be on my conscious if Patrick victimizes someone in your family.
This would be a whole different conversation if Patrick would have been forthright and honest about everything. Even then, Patrick would still be a potential danger to other little girls but I wouldn't feel compelled to warn the community. But hiding information and people, lying, going places and being around children(when legally you were not suppose to),contesting a no-contact-order(that the victim wanted to feel safe), suing one of your victims families are all actions that are contrary to the actions of someone who is repentant! Dressing up in a suit and going to church, crying, uttering the words, "forgive me" do not equal repentance!
Thursday, July 29, 2010
Toronto, Ontario
The following comment was left on this post:Discovery
July 29, 2010 12:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Wait a second, he kissed your child(which I do agree is very horrible) and you call it sexual abuse? A man kisses a child and you called him a pedophile? Is that all he did? From how you have raged in other posts I thought it would had been something way more horrible than kisses.
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First of all,if you REALLY believed in what your are posting,you would sign your name to your comment. It shows on my site tracker that this comment was made from Toronto,Ontario. You know who I am. I am not hiding. Why are you?
Secondly,this is exactly why I have this blog...to expose this kind of thinking.
Patrick is without a doubt a pedophile! He should forever avoid contact with minor children!
Finally, I would like to make clear that yes, an adult man of 22yrs old who creeps into an adolescents bedroom at night(when the child is sleeping) multiple times, to do ANYTHING at all, "just a kiss" or more is a PEDOPHILE! And in our case Patrick did more! This is where my rage comes in. My child was asleep, in their own bed, in the safety of their own home and was violated.
Since the reader obviously missed some key parts of the blog I will refresh your memory. In Patrick's evaluation, which is primarily in his own words, he talks in great detail about the sexual abuse he committed against six little girls. Their ages ranging from 11yrs old down to a 1.5yr old. He also talks about sexual acts with a dog, voyeurism, and incest with a consenting adult sister.Patrick is most certainly a sexual predator!
July 29, 2010 12:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Wait a second, he kissed your child(which I do agree is very horrible) and you call it sexual abuse? A man kisses a child and you called him a pedophile? Is that all he did? From how you have raged in other posts I thought it would had been something way more horrible than kisses.
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First of all,if you REALLY believed in what your are posting,you would sign your name to your comment. It shows on my site tracker that this comment was made from Toronto,Ontario. You know who I am. I am not hiding. Why are you?
Secondly,this is exactly why I have this blog...to expose this kind of thinking.
Patrick is without a doubt a pedophile! He should forever avoid contact with minor children!
Finally, I would like to make clear that yes, an adult man of 22yrs old who creeps into an adolescents bedroom at night(when the child is sleeping) multiple times, to do ANYTHING at all, "just a kiss" or more is a PEDOPHILE! And in our case Patrick did more! This is where my rage comes in. My child was asleep, in their own bed, in the safety of their own home and was violated.
Since the reader obviously missed some key parts of the blog I will refresh your memory. In Patrick's evaluation, which is primarily in his own words, he talks in great detail about the sexual abuse he committed against six little girls. Their ages ranging from 11yrs old down to a 1.5yr old. He also talks about sexual acts with a dog, voyeurism, and incest with a consenting adult sister.Patrick is most certainly a sexual predator!
Wednesday, July 28, 2010
A humble servant of Him who loves you.
Anonymous said...
Hey, just wanted to say that I feel really sorry for you. I have been a friend of the Rojas family ever since I was born, when I read this I could not believe that patrick had done this. I still love the Rojas family from the bottom of my heart. I will be praying for your comfort, and that Jesus will open your eyes to forgive Patrick. Remember- pray for Patrick, in God's word it says to pray for your enemys, if you consider him your enemy, pray for him. If you consider him a fellow sinner, pray for him. He needs your prayers, he really does. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, you are a sinner and so is he. The hurt is deep, I know, I know. But who did God come for, the "good" people? No, Jesus came for the broken, the beggars, the prostitutes, the tax colectors. Do not judge patrick for his sins, we are not the judge CHRIST is the holy judge. He will bring justice. Patrick is already forgiven, he repented, and Jesus has washed him whiter than snow, he is a new creation. The old is gone and the new is here. Remember that, remember that Jesus forgave Patrick, so like Jesus, you must also forgive him. It is very far that patrick has fallen, very evil the things he has done, but he is forgiven, God is saving him.
May God continue to bless you, to pour out his blessings upon you. May he open your hearts to the true righteosness of the rojas family. They are whiter than snow by God's washing them.
-A humble servant of Him who loves you.
July 28, 2010 2:37 PM said...
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As you can see I just received the above comment. Anonymous made this comment on my "What Eddie Knew" post. So many things run through my mind...it sounds so familiar...truth with a twist. I want to reply, Yes, but....
I can't get worked up and try to justify myself to these individuals. So,I remind myself that God is my judge, I believe He will say, "Well done."
It is interesting to me how the supporters of Patrick and the Rojas family focus so much of their concern on my need to forgive them. I do believe that Patrick is a wolf in sheep clothing, an impostor, a dangerous sexual predator! I believe that the actions of Eddie and Kathy raise many red flags. I believe I have a moral and spiritual obligation to tell our story so individuals around Patrick are aware of his danger to children and I also wanted Eddie to be located in hopes of the girls getting the professional help that they need along with Eddie being held legally accountable for his actions. Telling our story and bringing awareness to this subject matter is bigger than Patrick, bigger than the other Rojas family members, bigger than my need to forgive Patrick!
Only God knows what is in a man's heart...so, all I have to go by is their actions. I see a lot of secrets, darkness, and evil in the Rojas's actions. I see pain and destruction as their legacy. I do not see repentance.
Hey, just wanted to say that I feel really sorry for you. I have been a friend of the Rojas family ever since I was born, when I read this I could not believe that patrick had done this. I still love the Rojas family from the bottom of my heart. I will be praying for your comfort, and that Jesus will open your eyes to forgive Patrick. Remember- pray for Patrick, in God's word it says to pray for your enemys, if you consider him your enemy, pray for him. If you consider him a fellow sinner, pray for him. He needs your prayers, he really does. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, you are a sinner and so is he. The hurt is deep, I know, I know. But who did God come for, the "good" people? No, Jesus came for the broken, the beggars, the prostitutes, the tax colectors. Do not judge patrick for his sins, we are not the judge CHRIST is the holy judge. He will bring justice. Patrick is already forgiven, he repented, and Jesus has washed him whiter than snow, he is a new creation. The old is gone and the new is here. Remember that, remember that Jesus forgave Patrick, so like Jesus, you must also forgive him. It is very far that patrick has fallen, very evil the things he has done, but he is forgiven, God is saving him.
May God continue to bless you, to pour out his blessings upon you. May he open your hearts to the true righteosness of the rojas family. They are whiter than snow by God's washing them.
-A humble servant of Him who loves you.
July 28, 2010 2:37 PM said...
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As you can see I just received the above comment. Anonymous made this comment on my "What Eddie Knew" post. So many things run through my mind...it sounds so familiar...truth with a twist. I want to reply, Yes, but....
I can't get worked up and try to justify myself to these individuals. So,I remind myself that God is my judge, I believe He will say, "Well done."
It is interesting to me how the supporters of Patrick and the Rojas family focus so much of their concern on my need to forgive them. I do believe that Patrick is a wolf in sheep clothing, an impostor, a dangerous sexual predator! I believe that the actions of Eddie and Kathy raise many red flags. I believe I have a moral and spiritual obligation to tell our story so individuals around Patrick are aware of his danger to children and I also wanted Eddie to be located in hopes of the girls getting the professional help that they need along with Eddie being held legally accountable for his actions. Telling our story and bringing awareness to this subject matter is bigger than Patrick, bigger than the other Rojas family members, bigger than my need to forgive Patrick!
Only God knows what is in a man's heart...so, all I have to go by is their actions. I see a lot of secrets, darkness, and evil in the Rojas's actions. I see pain and destruction as their legacy. I do not see repentance.
Monday, July 26, 2010
Stop the silence!
What can tear away at family values, purity,innocence,community more than a pedophile or the people that keep their secrets? Will you speak out on this subject? Will you take a stand even if it costs you financially or socially? It is going to take way more than my blog to make a difference in the area of childhood sexual abuse. I know drug addiction and alcoholism are also very devastating to families and community but I strongly suspect that sexual abuse is what drives many, many individuals to seek relief from their internal struggle from their abuse by turning to drugs or alcohol.
I know that there will always be pedophiles on this earth but I do believe we can drastically reduce their access to children. The easiest way is to stop being silent! Inform others of known predators in your area. Write your elected leaders asking them to make stricter guidelines for released predators, longer jail sentences for sexual predators, mandatory sexual psycho evaluation for someone accused of a sexual crime (plea agreements only allowed after the lie-detector part of the evaluation implies the offender has been truthful.)Ask your leaders to explain why someone that abuses an animal routinely receives harsher punishments than a sexual predator.There are so many changes that need to be made in our laws that pertain to this subject!The laws won't change unless we the people demand a change.
Remember,you ALWAYS need to report suspected sexual abuse!
I know that there will always be pedophiles on this earth but I do believe we can drastically reduce their access to children. The easiest way is to stop being silent! Inform others of known predators in your area. Write your elected leaders asking them to make stricter guidelines for released predators, longer jail sentences for sexual predators, mandatory sexual psycho evaluation for someone accused of a sexual crime (plea agreements only allowed after the lie-detector part of the evaluation implies the offender has been truthful.)Ask your leaders to explain why someone that abuses an animal routinely receives harsher punishments than a sexual predator.There are so many changes that need to be made in our laws that pertain to this subject!The laws won't change unless we the people demand a change.
Remember,you ALWAYS need to report suspected sexual abuse!
Sunday, July 25, 2010
Why do you still attend?
I don't get why individuals still attend PHFCC in Port Orchard, WA under Dave Barrueto and Jim Cameron if they know our story. One of the elements that attract individuals to that particular congregation is the "emphasis on family." The belief is that the we, as Christians, reach the world is through a strong family unit that glorifies God.
With that in mind don't you find it ironic that the men in that congregation would continue to submit to leaders who, by their own actions, took part in damaging a family and for that matter future families. The same leaders kept quiet about information that our family needed to help our child, information the police needed, information that the church body should have had in order to protect their own families from a predator.
I have no idea exactly what the leaders currently tell new members of the church about their past history, especially if one of the new families comes across my blog. But at the time, one excuse that was routinely given was, "that they (the elders) were only men and had made mistakes." Once, I heard this with my own ears from Jim Cameron and he seemed rather irritated and arrogant at the time. I want to address this in particular. Mistakes, I get. But let me be clear these elders continued to support the Rojas family way beyond anything that could be considered a "mistake."
#1. Jim and Dave (the elders) withheld details to the crimes Patrick committed against our child from the detective. (They will say that they thought we knew, that they had no legal obligation to report, that this was a matter for the "church" not the state.) I would reply: Jim knew exactly what we knew! Maybe they had no legal obligation but what about moral? The abuse of a child is absolutely the matter of the state and a matter that the "church" should take far more seriously than it does!
#2. Jim omitted information when he gave his statement to the police. You can request a copy of Jim Cameron's statement to the detective and see for yourself. There is no mention in Jim's statement about Patrick's detailed description of the crimes committed against my child. Jim actually implies the opposite! He lied to protect a sexual predator! Dave was not interviewed, nor did he call to report the information about the crimes that Patrick committed.
#3. Jim and Dave impressed upon the church the importance of not talking about the matter between the Rojas family and Schneider family. They tried very hard to control the information that was talked about. Dave even called my mom (the victim's grandmother) and told her she was in sin, for gossip, because she had talked to Dave's mother-in-law about some of the details with what was happening. The elders also put out a letter to the congregation stating it would be a sin to talk about the matter even amongst their own family members.
#4. Jim and Dave coined the phrases, "It was only a kiss." WTF: between a 22yr old grown man and an adolescent child, "just a kiss" and just "inappropriate behavior." They both knew that much more than "just a kiss" had taken place!!
#5. Jim and Dave tried to convince Eric (my husband) that we needed to be back in fellowship with Patrick. That we needed to forgive. That true forgiveness meant our family would be in fellowship with Patrick and the Rojas family.
#6. Jim and Dave refused to request a copy of Patrick's sexual psycho evaluation before his sentencing. Stating that the matter was in the states hands. REMEMBER, they already knew the details of what Patrick had done to our child.
#7. The elders helped Eddie Rojas hide his family.
#8. After knowing all the information about Patrick's crimes in our case, additional victims, other sexual deviant behavior, that were made public in an all church Heads-of- Household meeting, the elders continued to stand along side Patrick and support his silence about his additional victims.
#9. Even after finally reading the evaluation done on Patrick, that is primarily in his own words,the elders encouraged families with children to interact with Patrick.
Definition of a mistake:
1 : to blunder in the choice of
2 a : to misunderstand the meaning or intention of : misinterpret b : to make a wrong judgment of the character or ability of
3 : to identify wrongly : confuse with another
If one is actively living a mistake, is it still a mistake? They did not care about what was best for our family! They did not consider the other children that will be abused by Patrick by belittling the crimes he committed in our case. They did not protect the Rojas girls.
And if these men have seen the error of their ways, what has changed? Have they talked about the abuse in their own family against their own children that was never reported? Have they gotten their own children help? Stop the silence! Live in the light! Our God is a big God, do you really think He is only found in PHFCC under these men? Why do you still attend? I am really asking!
With that in mind don't you find it ironic that the men in that congregation would continue to submit to leaders who, by their own actions, took part in damaging a family and for that matter future families. The same leaders kept quiet about information that our family needed to help our child, information the police needed, information that the church body should have had in order to protect their own families from a predator.
I have no idea exactly what the leaders currently tell new members of the church about their past history, especially if one of the new families comes across my blog. But at the time, one excuse that was routinely given was, "that they (the elders) were only men and had made mistakes." Once, I heard this with my own ears from Jim Cameron and he seemed rather irritated and arrogant at the time. I want to address this in particular. Mistakes, I get. But let me be clear these elders continued to support the Rojas family way beyond anything that could be considered a "mistake."
#1. Jim and Dave (the elders) withheld details to the crimes Patrick committed against our child from the detective. (They will say that they thought we knew, that they had no legal obligation to report, that this was a matter for the "church" not the state.) I would reply: Jim knew exactly what we knew! Maybe they had no legal obligation but what about moral? The abuse of a child is absolutely the matter of the state and a matter that the "church" should take far more seriously than it does!
#2. Jim omitted information when he gave his statement to the police. You can request a copy of Jim Cameron's statement to the detective and see for yourself. There is no mention in Jim's statement about Patrick's detailed description of the crimes committed against my child. Jim actually implies the opposite! He lied to protect a sexual predator! Dave was not interviewed, nor did he call to report the information about the crimes that Patrick committed.
#3. Jim and Dave impressed upon the church the importance of not talking about the matter between the Rojas family and Schneider family. They tried very hard to control the information that was talked about. Dave even called my mom (the victim's grandmother) and told her she was in sin, for gossip, because she had talked to Dave's mother-in-law about some of the details with what was happening. The elders also put out a letter to the congregation stating it would be a sin to talk about the matter even amongst their own family members.
#4. Jim and Dave coined the phrases, "It was only a kiss." WTF: between a 22yr old grown man and an adolescent child, "just a kiss" and just "inappropriate behavior." They both knew that much more than "just a kiss" had taken place!!
#5. Jim and Dave tried to convince Eric (my husband) that we needed to be back in fellowship with Patrick. That we needed to forgive. That true forgiveness meant our family would be in fellowship with Patrick and the Rojas family.
#6. Jim and Dave refused to request a copy of Patrick's sexual psycho evaluation before his sentencing. Stating that the matter was in the states hands. REMEMBER, they already knew the details of what Patrick had done to our child.
#7. The elders helped Eddie Rojas hide his family.
#8. After knowing all the information about Patrick's crimes in our case, additional victims, other sexual deviant behavior, that were made public in an all church Heads-of- Household meeting, the elders continued to stand along side Patrick and support his silence about his additional victims.
#9. Even after finally reading the evaluation done on Patrick, that is primarily in his own words,the elders encouraged families with children to interact with Patrick.
Definition of a mistake:
1 : to blunder in the choice of
2 a : to misunderstand the meaning or intention of : misinterpret
3 : to identify wrongly : confuse with another
If one is actively living a mistake, is it still a mistake? They did not care about what was best for our family! They did not consider the other children that will be abused by Patrick by belittling the crimes he committed in our case. They did not protect the Rojas girls.
And if these men have seen the error of their ways, what has changed? Have they talked about the abuse in their own family against their own children that was never reported? Have they gotten their own children help? Stop the silence! Live in the light! Our God is a big God, do you really think He is only found in PHFCC under these men? Why do you still attend? I am really asking!
Wednesday, July 21, 2010
Donate
When I posted the fact that there was a lawsuit pending against Eric and I and that I was going to hire an attorney I had someone comment that they wanted to donate money towards the lawyer. A week or so later I received a check in the mail. It was very touching and humbling that someone wanted to support our family in such a practical way.
Well today, I received another card with money enclosed from someone different, expressing their anger that we were being sued and of their desire "to want to do something to help." Again, humbled! This brought tears to my eyes. I not only felt touched from this individuals gesture of support but I also felt a spiritual support. Somehow these gestures help me feel that Eric and I aren't in this battle alone. We do have support. Practical and spiritual.
If this is a subject matter that has touched you personally or that matters to you and you want to help fight the battle against childhood sexual abuse, here are a couple of places that you can donate money to:
DARKNESS TO LIGHT
STOP THE SILENCE
Proverbs 11:24-25 "There is one who scatters, yet increases more: and there is one who withholds more than is right, but it leads to poverty. The generous soul will be made rich, and he who waters will also be watered himself."
Well today, I received another card with money enclosed from someone different, expressing their anger that we were being sued and of their desire "to want to do something to help." Again, humbled! This brought tears to my eyes. I not only felt touched from this individuals gesture of support but I also felt a spiritual support. Somehow these gestures help me feel that Eric and I aren't in this battle alone. We do have support. Practical and spiritual.
If this is a subject matter that has touched you personally or that matters to you and you want to help fight the battle against childhood sexual abuse, here are a couple of places that you can donate money to:
DARKNESS TO LIGHT
STOP THE SILENCE
Proverbs 11:24-25 "There is one who scatters, yet increases more: and there is one who withholds more than is right, but it leads to poverty. The generous soul will be made rich, and he who waters will also be watered himself."
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